http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-36365967.
great article...chinese were brewing beer 5,000 years ago.... not bad considering it's not far off adam & eve... :).
.. .. chinese drinkers may have been brewing beer as many as 5,000 years ago, new research suggests.. us and chinese researchers say they found traces of barley, millet, grain, and tubers used in fermentation.. it was found on pottery discovered in shaanxi province in northern china during an archaeological dig 10 years ago.. it would be the earliest known instance of beer-making in china and suggest a sophisticated approach.. published in the us proceedings of the national academy of sciences, the study also suggested that barley may have been used for booze before being used for food.. as every home-brewer knows, funnels are an essential piece of kit.
Nice!
In Armenia they managed to make wine some decades before Adam and Eve were even created .
Must have been some hard work growing grapes outside of Eden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areni-1_winery
And then 2000 years before that they already had 'winey nights in Georgia'
in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
Hey WingCommander,
You're from a very good year :-D ;-)
i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.
if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.
i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.
One of the telltale signs of cults according to the BITE model is controlling what cult members are (not) allowed to wear for clothing.
Cult.
in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
Remember Waco, anyone?
A Seventh-day Adventist sect (so theological cousins of Watchtower) claiming Armageddon was imminent.
Then the authorities came to their compound (bunkers?) to investigate allegations of child sexual abuse.
The rest is history :-(
I'll make a note of that on my FB on convention Saturday. Prime some minds to see the similarities.
so here an update on my current situation, in a nutshell i've been trying to quietly fade for the past 5 months.. well, my mom somehow found out that i am currently fading and that i live with my boyfriend (for more info on this check my previous posts) i told her yes i live with him and yes i no longer want to be a jw.
anyways, yesterday she met my boyfriend.. awkward.
and after lunch she pulled me aside to tell me that the po came up to her (he was part of my jc when i was reproved) he said to her "someone came to me and said - i cannot say who so they will remain anonymous- but that your daughter is living with someone" my mom confirmed and apparently he told her that i have one week to confess this, and if i don't my parents are obligated to tell them everything.. what kind of nonsense is that?
Raven,
Like you said: it's none of their business. Not now. Not ever.
The fact that cult leaders insert themselves inappropriately in (ex) members' lives based on ancient tales doesn't make it right either.
Your life. Your decisions. Your business.
Everyone else (including your mom) should mind their own business.
Just remember this down the road in case the pressure increases.
according to our sources belgium bethel will be very soon closed and the building sold.... selters germany bethel will take care of this area....
Very interested on news regarding Dutch branch. Without audio/video dept (which they just upgraded!) it's only Central Purchasing left (if they still have that).
This branch was just renovated and expanded....will be a way too big and expensive RTO I guess?
1. do not get drunk before a pearl jam concert.. 2. don't register to vote while drunk.. .
3. do not get your picture taken while registering to vote while drunk before a pearl jam concert.
4. do not give drunken permission for the newspaper to run the picture on the front page!.
Looooool.
So how was the concert?
And do you get more female attention now that you're famous? ;-)
yesterday, here in santiago, chile, some stupid ***** yerk tried to kill himself by entering naked to the lions cage in broad day light and while the zoo was filled with people!...
sad part is the zoo personnel had to shoot dead the lions (male and female, 22 years old)... because waiting for the tranquilizers to take effect would be the sarah of the man.... at first everyone thought it was a suicide attempt, but later they found in his garments some kind of letter stating that armageddon had come and that he is daniel the prophet and god would save him... and he signed the letter as "jesus christ".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3602819/naked-man-jumps-zoo-s-lion-enclosure-suicide-bid-survives-grave-condition-two-beasts-mauling-killed.html.
via reddit.
here are the morning program highlights.
will update for the afternoon once it's all over.
W.T.F!!!
A whOle morning of fear mongering. All the kids will be scared like hell. There's only two ways for parents to react to that:
Stuff like this will create another generation of anxious, stressed, fearfully dubs :-(
is this something they've asked them to do?
cart displays in front of their homes?
my mom is only in her mid 60s so i'm quite sure this is not an issue of mental illness.. the only illness she's suffering from is boredom since she's refused to work for years now.
JW reasoning doesn't matter here. You don't want it. End of story.
Yes. This.
